diff --git a/pkgs/development/compilers/ghc/createGhcWrapper/default.nix b/pkgs/development/compilers/ghc/createGhcWrapper/default.nix
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..5eeb4d431908
--- /dev/null
+++ b/pkgs/development/compilers/ghc/createGhcWrapper/default.nix
@@ -0,0 +1,25 @@
+args: with args;
+
+stdenv.mkDerivation {
+  inherit suffix name ghc ;
+
+  buildInputs = libraries ++ [ghcPkgUtil];
+
+  phases="installPhase";
+
+  installPhase="
+    ensureDir \$out/bin
+    if test -n \"\$ghcPackagedLibs\"; then
+       g=:\$(echo \$ghc/lib/ghc-*/package.conf)
+    fi
+
+    for a in ghc ghci ghc-pkg; do
+      app=$(ls -al $ghc/bin/$a | sed -n 's%.*-> \\(.*\\)%\\1%p');
+cat > \"\$out/bin/\$a$suffix\" << EOF
+#!`type -f sh | gawk '{ print $3; }'`
+GHC_PACKAGE_PATH=\${GHC_PACKAGE_PATH}\${g} \$ghc/bin/$app \"\\\$@\"
+EOF
+      chmod +x \"\$out/bin/\$a$suffix\"
+    done
+";
+}
diff --git a/pkgs/development/compilers/ghcs/default.nix b/pkgs/development/compilers/ghcs/default.nix
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..c3a46968880d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/pkgs/development/compilers/ghcs/default.nix
@@ -0,0 +1,168 @@
+{ ghcPkgUtil, gnum4, perl, ghcboot, stdenv, fetchurl, recurseIntoAttrs, gmp, readline, lib } : rec {
+  
+  /* What's in here?
+     Goal:  really pure GHC. This means put every library into its each package.conf
+     and add all together using GHC_PACKAGE_PATH
+
+     First I've tried separating the build of ghc from it's lib. It hase been to painful. I've failed.
+     Now there is splitpackagedb.hs which just takes the installed package.conf
+     and creates a new package db file for each contained package.
+
+     The final attribute set looks similar to this:
+     ghc, core_libs and extra_libraries will then be used to build all the ohter packages availible on hackege..
+     (There is much left to be done)
+
+     ghcAndLibraries =  {
+      ghc68 = {
+        ghc = {
+          src = "The compiler source"
+          extra_src =  "source of extra libraries"
+          version = "GHC version as string"
+        }
+
+        core_libs = [ libs distributed the ghc core (see libraries/core-packages ];
+        extra_libraries = [ libraries contained extra_src ];
+     };
+
+     ghc66 = {
+       roughly the same
+     };
+    }
+
+  */
+
+  # creates a nix package out of the single package.conf files created when after installing ghc (see splitpackagedb.hs)
+  packageByPackageDB = otherPkg : name : packageconfpath : propagatedBuildInputs : stdenv.mkDerivation {
+    inherit name otherPkg propagatedBuildInputs;
+    phases = "buildPhase fixupPhase";
+    buildInputs = [ghcPkgUtil];
+    buildPhase = "setupHookRegisteringPackageDatabase \"$otherPkg/${packageconfpath}\"
+      ";
+  };
+
+  # used to automatically get dependencies ( used for core_libs ) 
+  # TODO use kind of state and evaluate deps of a dep only once
+  resolveDeps = ghc : libs : 
+    let attrs = __listToAttrs libs; in
+      rec {
+        # using undocumented feature that attribute can contain hyphens when using listToAttrs
+        # You should be able to get the attribute values using __getAttr
+        result = __listToAttrs (map ( l : lib.av l.name (
+                               packageByPackageDB ghc l.name 
+                                      ("lib/ghc-${ghc.version}/${l.name}.conf")
+                                      (map (n: __getAttr n result) l.deps)
+                ) ) libs );
+      }.result;
+
+
+  
+  #this only works for ghc-6.8 right now
+  ghcAndLibraries = { version, src /* , core_libraries, extra_libraries  */
+                    , extra_src }:
+                   recurseIntoAttrs ( rec {
+    inherit src extra_src version;
+
+    ghc = stdenv.mkDerivation {
+      name = "ghc-"+version;
+      inherit src ghcboot gmp version;
+
+      buildInputs = [readline perl gnum4 gmp];
+
+      preConfigure = "
+        chmod u+x rts/gmp/configure
+        # still requires a hack for ncurses
+        sed -i \"s|^\(library-dirs.*$\)|\1 \\\"$ncurses/lib\\\"|\" libraries/readline/package.conf.in
+      ";
+
+      splitpackagedb = ./splitpackagedb.hs;
+
+      configurePhase = "./configure"
+       +" --prefix=\$out "
+       +" --with-ghc=\$ghcboot/bin/ghc"
+       +" --with-gmp-libraries=$gmp/lib"
+       +" --with-readline-libraries=\"$readline/lib\"";
+
+      # now read the main package.conf and create a single package db file for each of them
+      # Also create setup hook.
+
+      #  note : I don't know yet wether it's a good idea to have RUNGHC.. It's faster
+      # but you can't pass packages, can you?
+      postInstall = "
+        cp \$splitpackagedb splitpackagedb.hs
+        \$out/bin/ghc-\$version --make -o splitpackagedb  splitpackagedb.hs;
+        ./splitpackagedb \$out/lib/ghc-\$version/package.conf \$out/lib/ghc-\$version
+
+        if test -x \$out/bin/runghc; then
+          RUNHGHC=\$out/bin/runghc # > ghc-6.7/8 ?
+        else
+          RUNHGHC=\$out/bin/runhaskell # ghc-6.6 and prior 
+        fi
+
+        ensureDir \$out/nix-support
+        sh=\$out/nix-support/setup-hook
+        echo \"RUNHGHC=\$RUNHGHC\" >> \$sh
+        
+      ";
+    };
+
+    # Why this effort? If you want to use pretty-0.9 you can do this now without cabal choosing the 1.0 version hassle 
+    core_libs = resolveDeps ghc
+      [ { name = "Cabal-1.2.0"; deps = ["base-2.1" "pretty-1.0" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "directory-1.0" "unix-2.0" "process-1.0" "array-0.1" "containers-0.1" "rts-1.0" "filepath-1.0"];} #
+        { name = "array-0.1"; deps = ["base-2.1"];}
+        { name = "base-2.1"; deps = [];} #
+        { name = "bytestring-0.9"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "array-0.1" ];}
+        { name = "containers-0.1"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "array-0.1" ];}
+        { name = "directory-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "filepath-1.0"];}
+        { name = "filepath-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" ];} #
+        { name = "ghc-6.8.0.20071004"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "filepath-1.0" "directory-1.0" "array-0.1" "containers-0.1" "hpc-0.5" "bytestring-0.9" "pretty-1.0" "packedstring-0.1" "template-haskell-0.1" "unix-2.0" "process-1.0" "readline-1.0" "Cabal-1.2.0" "random-1.0" "haskell98-1.0"];}
+        { name = "haskell98-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "filepath-1.0" "directory-1.0" "random-1.0" "unix-2.0" "process-1.0" "array-0.1"];}
+        { name = "hpc-0.5"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "filepath-1.0" "directory-1.0" "array-0.1" "containers-0.1"]; }
+        { name = "old-locale-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1"];}
+        { name = "old-time-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" ];}
+        { name = "packedstring-0.1"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "array-0.1" ];}
+        { name = "pretty-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" ];}
+        { name = "process-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "filepath-1.0" "directory-1.0" "unix-2.0"];}
+        { name = "random-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0"];}
+        { name = "readline-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "filepath-1.0" "directory-1.0" "unix-2.0" "process-1.0" ];}
+        { name = "rts-1.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" ];} #
+        { name = "template-haskell-0.1"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "pretty-1.0" "array-0.1" "packedstring-0.1" "containers-0.1" ];}
+        { name = "unix-2.0"; deps = [ "base-2.1" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "filepath-1.0" "directory-1.0" ];}
+      ];
+
+      
+
+    extra_libs = [];
+
+    #all_libs = core_libs ++ extra_libs;
+
+  } );
+
+  ghc68 = ghcAndLibraries {
+    version = "6.8.0.20071004";
+    src = fetchurl {
+      url = http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/stable/dist/ghc-6.8.0.20071004-src.tar.bz2;
+      sha256 = "1yyl7sxykmvkiwfxkfzpqa6cmgw19phkyjcdv99ml22j16wli63l";
+      #url = http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/stable/dist/ghc-6.8.20070912-src.tar.bz2;
+      #sha256 = "1b1gvi7hc7sc0fkh29qvzzd5lgnlvdv3ayiak4mkfnzkahvmq85s";
+    };
+
+    extra_src = fetchurl {
+      url = http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/stable/dist/ghc-6.8.0.20071004-src-extralibs.tar.bz2;
+      sha256 = "0vjx4vb2xhv5v2wj74ii3gpjim7x9wj0m87zglqlhc8xn31pmrd2";
+      #url = http://www.haskell.org/ghc/dist/stable/dist/ghc-6.8.20070912-src-extralibs.tar.bz2;
+      #sha256 = "0py7d9nh3lkhjxr3yb3n9345d0hmzq79bi40al5rcr3sb84rnp9r";
+    };
+
+    # this will change because of dependency hell :) 
+    #core_libraries = [ "Cabal" /* "Win32" */ "array" "base" "bytestring" "containers" 
+                       #"directory" "doc" "filepath" "haskell98" "hpc" "old-locale" "old-time"
+                       #"packedstring" "pretty" "process" "random" "readline" "stamp" 
+                       #"template-haskell" "unix" ];
+
+    #extra_libraries = [ "ALUT" "GLUT" "HGL" "HUnit" "ObjectIO" "OpenAL" "OpenGL" "QuickCheck" "X11" 
+                        #"arrows" "cgi" "fgl" "haskell-src" "html" "mtl" "network" "parallel" "parsec" 
+                        #"regex-base" "regex-compat" "regex-posix" "stm" "time" "xhtm" ];
+
+  };
+}
+
diff --git a/pkgs/development/compilers/ghcs/splitpackagedb.hs b/pkgs/development/compilers/ghcs/splitpackagedb.hs
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..0f7ceb0d4019
--- /dev/null
+++ b/pkgs/development/compilers/ghcs/splitpackagedb.hs
@@ -0,0 +1,25 @@
+{-# OPTIONS_GHC -fglasgow-exts #-}
+module Main where
+import Distribution.InstalledPackageInfo (InstalledPackageInfo (..))
+import Distribution.Package (showPackageId)
+import System.FilePath
+import System.Environment
+
+usage = unlines [
+  "<appname> in outDir"
+  , "reads package db appname"
+  , "and creates a package database for each contained package in outDir"
+  , "" 
+  , "The purpose is to be able to control availible packages to ensure purity in nix."
+  , "Separating each package from the auomated ghc build process is to painful (for me)"
+  ]
+
+main = do
+  args <- getArgs
+  case args of
+    [inFile, outDir] -> do
+      (packagedb :: [InstalledPackageInfo] ) <- fmap read $ readFile inFile
+      mapM_ (\pi -> let fn = outDir </> (showPackageId $ package pi) ++ ".conf"
+                    in writeFile fn (show [pi])
+            ) packagedb
+    _ -> putStrLn usage
diff --git a/pkgs/development/libraries/haskell/generic/ghcPkgUtil.sh b/pkgs/development/libraries/haskell/generic/ghcPkgUtil.sh
index e265195b321f..5760372888ec 100644
--- a/pkgs/development/libraries/haskell/generic/ghcPkgUtil.sh
+++ b/pkgs/development/libraries/haskell/generic/ghcPkgUtil.sh
@@ -16,7 +16,11 @@
 # if not already contained
 setupHookRegisteringPackageDatabase(){
   ensureDir $out/nix-support;
-  local pkgdb=$out/nix-support/package.conf
+  if test -n "$1"; then
+    local pkgdb=$1
+  else
+    local pkgdb=$out/nix-support/package.conf
+  fi
   cat >> $out/nix-support/setup-hook << EOF
     
     echo \$GHC_PACKAGE_PATH | grep -l $pkgdb &> /dev/null || \
@@ -28,6 +32,6 @@ EOF
 createEmptyPackageDatabaseAndSetupHook(){
   ensureDir $out/nix-support;
   PACKAGE_DB=$out/nix-support/package.conf;
-  echo '[]' > $PACKAGE_DB";
+  echo '[]' > "$PACKAGE_DB";
   setupHookRegisteringPackageDatabase
 }
diff --git a/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix b/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix
index c586475cc054..853c917524bf 100644
--- a/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix
+++ b/pkgs/top-level/all-packages.nix
@@ -240,6 +240,7 @@ rec {
         }
       else defaultStdenv;
 
+  stdenvUsingSetupNew2 = overrideSetup stdenv ../stdenv/generic/setup-new-2.sh;
 
   ### BUILD SUPPORT
 
@@ -926,6 +927,49 @@ rec {
     profiledCompiler = true;
   });
 
+  # This new ghc stuff is under heavy development and might change ! 
+
+  # usage: see ghcPkgUtil.sh - use setup-new2 because of PATH_DELIMITER
+  ghcPkgUtil = runCommand "ghcPkgUtil-internal" 
+     { ghcPkgUtil = ../development/libraries/haskell/generic/ghcPkgUtil.sh; }
+     "mkdir -p $out/nix-support; cp $ghcPkgUtil \$out/nix-support/setup-hook;";
+
+  ghcsAndLibs = recurseIntoAttrs (import ../development/compilers/ghcs {
+      inherit ghcboot fetchurl recurseIntoAttrs perl gnum4 gmp readline;
+      inherit ghcPkgUtil;
+      stdenv = stdenvUsingSetupNew2;
+      lib = lib_unstable;
+  });
+
+  # creates ghc-X-wl wich adds the passed libraries to the env var GHC_PACKAGE_PATH
+  createGhcWrapper = { ghcPackagedLibs ? false, ghc, libraries, name, suffix ? "ghc_wrapper_${ghc.name}" } :
+        import ../development/compilers/ghc/createGhcWrapper {
+    inherit ghcPackagedLibs ghc name suffix libraries ghcPkgUtil;
+    stdenv = stdenvUsingSetupNew2;
+  };
+
+  # the wrappers basically does one thing: It defines GHC_PACKAGE_PATH before calling ghc{i,-pkg}
+  # So you can have different wrappers with different library combinations
+  # So installing ghc libraries isn't done by nix-env -i package but by adding the lib to the libraries list below
+  ghcLibraryWrapper68 = 
+    let ghc = ghcsAndLibs.ghc68.ghc; in
+    createGhcWrapper rec {
+      ghcPackagedLibs = true;
+      name = "ghc68_wrapper";
+      suffix = "68wrapper";
+      libraries = map ( a : __getAttr a ghcsAndLibs.ghc68.core_libs ) 
+        [ "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" "filepath-1.0" "directory-1.0" "array-0.1" "containers-0.1" 
+          "hpc-0.5" "bytestring-0.9" "pretty-1.0" "packedstring-0.1" "template-haskell-0.1" 
+          "unix-2.0" "process-1.0" "readline-1.0" "Cabal-1.2.0" "random-1.0" "haskell98-1.0" "ghc-6.8.0.20071004"
+          "array-0.1" "bytestring-0.9" "containers-0.1" "directory-1.0" "filepath-1.0"
+          "ghc-6.8.0.20071004" "haskell98-1.0" "hpc-0.5" "old-locale-1.0" "old-time-1.0" 
+          "packedstring-0.1" "pretty-1.0" "process-1.0" "random-1.0"
+          "readline-1.0" "rts-1.0" "template-haskell-0.1" "unix-2.0"
+        ];
+        # (flatten ghcsAndLibs.ghc68.core_libs);
+      inherit ghc;
+  };
+
   # ghc66boot = import ../development/compilers/ghc-6.6-boot {
   #  inherit fetchurl stdenv perl readline;
   #  m4 = gnum4;
@@ -2322,11 +2366,6 @@ rec {
 
   ### DEVELOPMENT / LIBRARIES / HASKELL
 
-  # usage: see ghcPkgUtil.sh - use setup-new2 because of PATH_DELIMITER
-  ghcPkgUtil = runCommand "ghcPkgUtil-internal" 
-     { ghcPkgUtil = ../development/libraries/haskell/generic/ghcPkgUtil.sh; }
-     "mkdir -p $out/nix-support; cp $ghcPkgUtil \$out/nix-support/setup-hook;";
-
 
   uulib64 = import ../development/libraries/haskell/uulib { # !!! remove?
     inherit stdenv fetchurl ghc;